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Old May 27, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36   #81
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But what about all the "normal" people that put thousands of hours into the game, and give their money to A-net for the game, and get hacked, why don't they get "special treatment"?
Because they aren't famous.

rawr will probably get everything back because not only do they give their money to the game, they also bring money into the game for Anet.
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36   #82
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I strongly believe that the deletion of [rawr] was a premeditated and malicious invasion of awowa's account. As a recent victim of an account breach myself, where someone stole 300k worth of ectos and shards, I hope Anet seriously investigates the increasingly noticeable rash of security breaches. While I don't expect anyone to care about what I lost, the deletion of a guild that has won 5 gold capes and organized two independent tournaments for the community just absolutely enrages me. I'm sure people that lack empathy find this hilarious, but I am getting increasingly paranoid about the state of security in Guild Wars or the GW fansites. While I haven't won a gold cape, I've poured thousands of hours into my character, and I really wish Anet would institute a method to prevent deletion of certain characters, guilds, or items.


Awowa or any of the other people hacked in the past couple months don't deserve this. People are quick to blame the victims, but recent threads indicate that people are losing items or accounts despite avoiding goldsellers or 3rd party programs. It's absolutely unacceptable that unscrupulous people can hide behind their computer screens taking advantage of people's work for personal gain or amusement. It's outrageous and something desperately needs to be done to correct the situation.
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:39 AM // 00:39   #83
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Because they aren't famous.

rawr will probably get everything back because not only do they give their money to the game, they also bring money into the game for Anet.
How does hosting a tournament that people who already own the game play in bring more money to the game? Anyone that played in their tournament has already bought the game and most likely all the "expansions".
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42   #84
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Because they aren't famous.

rawr will probably get everything back because not only do they give their money to the game, they also bring money into the game for Anet.
Ummm, explain again how rawr brings money into the game?
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43   #85
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How does hosting a tournament that people who already own the game play in bring more money to the game? Anyone that played in their tournament has already bought the game and most likely all the "expansions".
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #86
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not only does it promote the game getting more people interested in the competitive sides of the game, it also keeps the game fresh and interesting to already existing players, making it more likely for them to buy future GW related products such as GWII
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #87
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Wow, this is just crazy. [rawr] is known even to the pve crowd, and for a breach like this to occur is shaking to say the least. No doubt Awowa will get his stuff back, he is the closest thing in power to a GM in this game without having the colors.

P.S.- RIP [rawr], may you be rez'd soon!
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46   #88
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Wow that sucks. Yet another reason to not be that famous I guess. It's the old 'be so poor you got nothing to steal' thing
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His parents can sue the hacker for emotional stress now.
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:50 AM // 00:50   #90
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Because they aren't famous.

rawr will probably get everything back because not only do they give their money to the game, they also bring money into the game for Anet.
I doubt it. No one goes "Get me this game because I want to play the game with that guild in it!" They buy the game because it's a free to play online RPG. THAT brings money into the game for them. What the community does after that is their business.
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52   #91
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I doubt it. No one goes "Get me this game because I want to play the game with that guild in it!" They buy the game because it's a free to play online RPG. THAT brings money into the game for them. What the community does after that is their business.
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Old May 27, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53   #92
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BBesides, rawr has put in THOUSANDS of hours into this game
So have shitloads of other people. It's not special.
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they help bring money to the game
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Old May 27, 2008, 01:00 AM // 01:00   #93
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People who dont understand that dont know what rawr and other top rated guilds do for the game itself. I suggest you take more of a look and see what rawr does for Anet.
and they'll do even more for the game when they suck this up and start over, relating to the players that this has happened to before. Unless they can single-handedly support ArenaNet in future endeavors, it's the best option.

My best wishes to the guild. That is a shitty thing to have happened. Hopefully, as is usually the case when something like this happens to someone well known, there will be some cahnges coming out of it. I don't know what changes, but perhaps a guild structure that relies on more than one person to disband it, or some kind of 24 hour timer before someone can delete a character that is over 24 hours old or something..

Their loss SHOULD be the game's and the community's gain if ANet takes a hint and decides to do something to mitigate things like this from happening. They'll make a comeback, I'm sure - just like thosde people that had all their stuff taken away after 3000+ hours of gaming. Don't quit.

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Old May 27, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06   #94
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Confirmed. Jatt remade it though (with a new cape design, haha). Doesn't feel like a big deal though. Don't know why everyone cares so much. It's just a game.
look a post by a [rawr] member, even Ekelon says it doesn't feel like a big deal.
think its about time for a /close. too much bickering
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